Beck Fans Disagree With Him On Presidential Eligibility

From World Net Daily and The Patriot Update:

BORN IN THE USA?




Glenn Beck fans doubt his take on eligibility

Fox host faces torrent of 'Where's birth certificate' on his own website



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Posted: September 27, 2010

10:06 pm Eastern





By Brian Fitzpatrick

© 2010 WorldNetDaily







WASHINGTON – Glenn Beck may pooh-pooh the issue of Barack Obama's presidential eligibility, but some of his most loyal fans are emphatic in demanding, "Where's the Birth Certificate?"



On Beck's own website, a thread started today shows those concerned about Obama's unwillingness to document that he is a "natural-born" citizen, as the Constitution requires, running 9-to-1 over those who believe it's a non-issue.



At 2:11 p.m., a reader posted a comment on his website, The Blaze, about Democratic House Majority Whip James Clyburn's warning that if the GOP takes control of Congress in January, it will issue subpoenas regarding Obama's eligibility.



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The original post included a video clip of Beck and guest Dinesh D'Souza dismissing the eligibility issue.



But within hours, more than 100 comments had been posted, and according to WND's tally, 45 of those comments questioned Obama's eligibility, and only five supported Beck's position.



The remaining posts commented on Clyburn or other issues.



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D'Souza accurately argued that the "best evidence" that Obama was born in Honolulu, as he claims, is two contemporary newspaper notices announcing his birth.



D'Souza, however, displayed no knowledge of the reasons why the notices do not prove Obama was born in Honolulu, as WND has reported.



See WND's Obama Eligibility Primer for a detailed discussion of this issue.



The first comment on the post, from Rita, asks, "Is this all they can come up with?"



Many of Beck's website readers appear to be well informed about various aspects of the eligibility controversy. One post, from "Burnthills," discusses a child born in Wisconsin who had a Florida birth announcement placed in the newspaper by his grandmother, just as Obama's grandparents could have done in the Honolulu newspapers.



Another reader, TR68GT, pointed out, "He hasn't proved where he was born. The document he provided, a [Certification] of Live Birth, was not good enough for me to get a driver's license in 1975, but now it proves something?"



Several readers pointed out that the biggest issue regarding Obama's eligibility is not his birthplace, but whether any child of a non-citizen parent could possibly satisfy the constitutional requirement that a president be a "natural born citizen." At the time the Constitution was written, the phrase "natural born citizen" was understood ordinarily to mean a child born of two citizens. Obama's father was a British subject at the time of Obama's birth and never was a U.S. citizen.



According to Dgroundhog, "He was born with dual citizenship. Obama admits this himself. He cannot have dual citizenship and be a natural born citizen."



Several other readers posted comments questioning why Obama would need to spend more than a million dollars in legal fees if he has nothing to hide.



One reader, Dexter Alarius, predicted that Obama would not run for re-election because of the eligibility issue.



"He won't run. Several states have legislation in the works requiring candidates for office to prove constitutional eligibility before being allowed on the ballot. Obama will decide soon that 'one good term' was enough," he said.



The conversation arose after Clyburn, a key Democrat in Congress, trying to drum up support for his party, warned voters that if the GOP moves into the majority in November, Republicans will issue subpoenaes over every possible issue they can assemble, including Barack Obama's eligibility for office.



Clyburn told the Grio website in an interview that there would be gridlock in Congress should Democrats fail to maintain their majority.



"You've got people like [GOP Rep. Darrell] Issa from California who is a ranking member on the government oversight committee," Clyburn said in the interview. "He has already said publicly that if he gets the gavel he will be issuing subpoenas everywhere.



"That will define the next two years of the president's administration," he warned. "The White House will be full-time responding to subpoenas about where the president may or may not have been born, whether his mother and father were ever married, and whether his wife's family is from Georgetown or Sampit."



The issue of Obama's birth certificate is key to the multitude of questions that have been raised about whether he is eligible to occupy the Oval Office. The nation's founders, in the Constitution, imposed a special requirement for the person who is president, that of being a "natural-born citizen."



WND has reported on dozens of legal and other challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."



Some of the lawsuits over the dispute question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.



Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.



Besides his original long-form birth certificate, WND has reported that among the other documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.